JJ a hot commodity? - Page 2

a_jordan9 · 02-01-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by abeer3

at just about every comment but scobu's.

jj for iguodala or ray allen? really?

I wasnt suggesting that it would happen... just the opposite. If a deal like that presented itself we would be dumb to turn it away.

Eze · 02-01-2010, 12:01 PM

JJ is most likely on one of the best teams, roster wise, that he could be on in the league.

Orlando, Cleveland, and maybe Phoenix are really the best places for a "shooter" to play, IMO.

Rashedo Lewoglu · 02-01-2010, 12:04 PM

Eze, NY is a good place for shooters, too. Well, insofar as NY is a good place for anything.

Rashedo Lewoglu · 02-01-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Eze

JJ is most likely on one of the best teams, roster wise, that he could be on in the league.

Orlando, Cleveland, and maybe Phoenix are really the best places for a "shooter" to play, IMO.

Washington.

/inevitable

abeer3 · 02-01-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eze

JJ is most likely on one of the best teams, roster wise, that he could be on in the league.

Orlando, Cleveland, and maybe Phoenix are really the best places for a "shooter" to play, IMO.

yeah, his trade value is limited to basically...the magic's direct competitors. the lakers would love to have a shooter. they'll trade you their jj for yours...

mully · 02-01-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Eze

JJ is most likely on one of the best teams, roster wise, that he could be on in the league.

Orlando, Cleveland, and maybe Phoenix are really the best places for a "shooter" to play, IMO.

Yup. Similar to how Kerr and Paxton were in the right place at the right time.

Harder for the Magic tho to have a short point guard that really isnt a very good defender and pair him with JJ. Barnes being the tough guy helps some and Dwight having their backs helps too. JJ ideally is a back-up.

Bulls had two great defenders playing the 2 and 3 so the "point" could be a guy like Kerr or Paxton. Even the guy who only got minutes during the 3 point contest at the all-star game. Forget his name now.

Rashedo Lewoglu · 02-01-2010, 12:12 PM

The more I think about it, the more I think Hinrich would be a great starting PG for this team. Tough, defensive guy who largely defers on offense.

Trouble is, his contract is bigger and uglier than Roseanne.

mully · 02-01-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashedo Lewoglu

The more I think about it, the more I think Hinrich would be a great starting PG for this team. Tough, defensive guy who largely defers on offense.

Trouble is, his contract is bigger and uglier than Roseanne.

I like Hinrich. Saw him at the final four in New Orleans. TJ Ford was supposed to be the man. Saw him for the first time against Kansas. I said that TJ Ford wasnt really that good because he just got beat by that white guy. That was Hinrich.

Smart player, has a little attitude to his style of play. I like him.

abeer3 · 02-01-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashedo Lewoglu

The more I think about it, the more I think Hinrich would be a great starting PG for this team. Tough, defensive guy who largely defers on offense.

Trouble is, his contract is bigger and uglier than Roseanne.

i think that, much like the dalembert situation, hinrich's contract is overplayed. he makes 9 million next year, and 8 the year after that. to put it in perspective, you're paying bass/gortat more than that (for twice as long) to contribute less than he would, imo.

if boston or la gets hinrich without giving up a major piece, they're going to be trouble.

Rashedo Lewoglu · 02-01-2010, 02:18 PM

The question is: Is Hinrich a better fit overall than Nelson? Does Kirk replace Jameer, or do they PG by committee?

gr8ness00 · 02-01-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashedo Lewoglu

The question is: Is Hinrich a better fit overall than Nelson? Does Kirk replace Jameer, or do they PG by committee?

I'm not sure if he'd be a better fit right away. Dwight and Jameer have good chemistry and I think trading away Jamer would not make Dwight a happy camper.

abeer3 · 02-01-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashedo Lewoglu

The question is: Is Hinrich a better fit overall than Nelson? Does Kirk replace Jameer, or do they PG by committee?

i think you mothball jwill and beetlejuice, give hinrich all the backup pg minutes and then another 15mpg at sg.

i'm not really advocating hinrich to orlando, as they have the pg and sg slot filled pretty well. i was really just taking issue with the idea that his contract is some sort of albatross. 2 more years at 8.5 million per really isn't that staggering, especially if he's going to play a primary role for your team. that's why i mentioned boston and la (teams that could use additional help at those spots in my estimation).

mully · 02-01-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gr8ness00

I'm not sure if he'd be a better fit right away. Dwight and Jameer have good chemistry and I think trading away Jamer would not make Dwight a happy camper.

Hinrich would compete for the staters minutes right away I think. Jameer is nicked up alot and to depend on JWill to start quite a few games a year is stretching it a bit. It could be a symbolic start for Jameer but Hinrich gets Dwight the ball much better than Jameer and would earn his playing time imo. And they could play together as Jameer really is a short 2.

I dont know what it would cost us or what the salary works out to be.

scobu822 · 02-01-2010, 04:03 PM

despite jameer's recent struggles...which he had been coming out of lately, he has proven himself to be a guy that you can't double off of because he can hit the open jumper. Hinrich isn't the type of shooter we need at pg because dwight would have a pg in his lap every time he touched the ball.

that said, he's a better defender and a slightly better distributor.

lapchern · 02-01-2010, 08:46 PM

jj's become my new courtney lee... he's grown immensely this season. with that said, i would be willing to let him go, but we'd have to get someone pretty good in return... not old though like ray allen.

he's one of the best playmakers on our team!!!! and i'm serious!

LOL_Dong · 02-01-2010, 10:28 PM

Hinrich is one helluva player and competitor and he's got one of the highest hoops iq in the NBA ... He'd be a good fit for any contending team, and would be the kind of piece which'll put a team over the top if he's dealt.

Bulls are a different team with him on the floor. Defensively we're so much more tougher.

PK · 02-01-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scobu822

why do you think jj is an exception to a general rule in the nba...and all pro sports, really?

cuz he's white... therefore he's "gritty, determined, , intelligent, a hard worker, etc"... and no, JT, i'm not calling you racist at all...

and mully, the guy who only played during the 3-point contest was Craig Hodges...

Hinrich to a contending team would be scary... he's smart and gives you maximum effort every time out... cuz he's white, and that's what white guys do...

no, but seriously, without him, the Bulls have no perimeter defense... he's been struggling with his shot this year, but with the open looks he'd be getting, i'm sure he'd round into form... he also had a thumb injury earlier that is starting to become fully healed... because of that, he's beginning to shoot better lately... he does tend to overdribble at times, but i don't think that'd be a concern because of the offensive weapons you guys have... the Bulls start Noah and Taj Gibson right now, and while Noah's become better and Taj isn't a slouch on offense, neither is a guy you just dump the ball in to and say "create a shot"...

everyone i know would much rather get rid of Salmons than Hinrich though... got an expiring for him?

a_jordan9 · 02-02-2010, 04:16 AM

Hinrich would be a great addition to the team... he could play next to Nelson if needed. I've liked Hinrich since his days at Kansas.... the guy is a solid, all-around player. We better hope that a team like the C's or Lakers do not get him before the deadline. The way Chicago is playing, I think they will keep him and trade him in the off-season.

a_jordan9 · 02-02-2010, 04:53 AM

This is according to hoopshype.com

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I've heard that Chicago is interested in Redick and could offer John Salmons and his expiring contract for Redick and a filler (probably Bass or Johnson). If Orlando makes a move, its going to be something smaller like this that doesnt change the face of the team but could still make an impact.

I see no benefit to this trade for our team..... only way you do something like is, if we land a guy like Tyrus Thomas or Hinrich in the deal. The way JJ is playing, I dont consider Salmons to be an upgrade. Salmons has not been playing up to his level for most of the year. Had this deal been offered in the summer, I would have said yes right away but things have changed.

gr8ness00 · 02-02-2010, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by a_jordan9

This is according to hoopshype.com

I see no benefit to this trade for our team..... only way you do something like is, if we land a guy like Tyrus Thomas or Hinrich in the deal. The way JJ is playing, I dont consider Salmons to be an upgrade. Salmons has not been playing up to his level for most of the year. Had this deal been offered in the summer, I would have said yes right away but things have changed.

I think I'd pass on this deal as well.

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02-01-2010, 12:01 PM	#22
Eze Wild Card. Please? Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sun Diego Posts: 11,863	JJ is most likely on one of the best teams, roster wise, that he could be on in the league. Orlando, Cleveland, and maybe Phoenix are really the best places for a "shooter" to play, IMO.

02-01-2010, 12:04 PM	#23
Rashedo Lewoglu All-Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,000	Eze, NY is a good place for shooters, too. Well, insofar as NY is a good place for anything.

02-01-2010, 12:12 PM	#27
Rashedo Lewoglu All-Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,000	The more I think about it, the more I think Hinrich would be a great starting PG for this team. Tough, defensive guy who largely defers on offense. Trouble is, his contract is bigger and uglier than Roseanne.

02-01-2010, 02:18 PM	#30
Rashedo Lewoglu All-Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,000	The question is: Is Hinrich a better fit overall than Nelson? Does Kirk replace Jameer, or do they PG by committee?

02-01-2010, 04:03 PM	#34
scobu822 pop it bitchez! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 10,349	despite jameer's recent struggles...which he had been coming out of lately, he has proven himself to be a guy that you can't double off of because he can hit the open jumper. Hinrich isn't the type of shooter we need at pg because dwight would have a pg in his lap every time he touched the ball. that said, he's a better defender and a slightly better distributor.

02-01-2010, 08:46 PM	#35
lapchern All-Star Join Date: May 2007 Location: la Posts: 1,326	jj's become my new courtney lee... he's grown immensely this season. with that said, i would be willing to let him go, but we'd have to get someone pretty good in return... not old though like ray allen. he's one of the best playmakers on our team!!!! and i'm serious!

02-02-2010, 04:16 AM	#38
a_jordan9 All-Star Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orl,FL Posts: 1,422	Hinrich would be a great addition to the team... he could play next to Nelson if needed. I've liked Hinrich since his days at Kansas.... the guy is a solid, all-around player. We better hope that a team like the C's or Lakers do not get him before the deadline. The way Chicago is playing, I think they will keep him and trade him in the off-season.

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